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Joey Myers: Hey, Tim, you got your uh muted here, let me get you. There we go.
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tim: I got you.
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Joey Myers: How's it going.
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tim: Oh, going! Pretty good!
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: How about you?
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Joey Myers: You guys busy now with the new line of V flexes.
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tim: Well, we're trying to learn how to sell them. You know it's been uh.
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tim: Man! What a learning curve. We're we've been in the.
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tim: The college, and. You know, d 1 baseball and d 1 softball and minor League baseball and all that good stuff, Major League.
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tim: Too, and it's just been a change for us trying to get to. Uh. The consumer level.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, we're we're pretty uh deep in intellectual property. So.
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Joey Myers: Mhm, Mhm.
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tim: Coming it down has been the greatest challenge, you know.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You're trying.
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Joey Myers: Have you guys uh, before we get into their? I got a lot of good questions. By the way, I uh.
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tim: Okay. Oh, I'm sure you're gonna you're gonna choice. My.
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Joey Myers: I got a lot of good ones.
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tim: I'm gonna lose a few hair today. But.
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Joey Myers: Oh, no, no, pressure, it's all gonna be. So what's cool is I was gonna ask you about artificial intelligence using Chat Gbt, and in your marketing. I don't know if you, if you guys have tried doing that, but it can really.
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tim: Yes.
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Joey Myers: Take something that is such a. You know we've had this talk before about V. Flex, and how. There's an educational component to it where.
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Joey Myers: The end user, whether that be a 12 U coach or 10 U parent, you know they have a 10 year old. Understanding what the value of the technology, right and.
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tim: Yes.
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Joey Myers: Chat. Gbt does a great job and just saying, Hey, you know, you put your marketing materials, basically maybe upload a flyer or whatever it is. Or copy and paste from the website and tell it to take this information.
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Joey Myers: And describe it so that a 10 year old can understand, or a 7th and 8th or 9th grader can understand. And it can take that complex.
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Joey Myers: Language that you and I use, and it can bring it down to a level that. Most most people, I think they say, is read at an 8th or 9th grade level.
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tim: Yes.
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Joey Myers: And so it makes a lot more simple to understand.
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tim: Well, you have to have all the tools in the toolbox. You know as you, as you know.
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tim: Uh on all my blogs. I I don't do anything without. Running it through chat, gpt, now.
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Joey Myers: Oh, good! Good!
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tim: You know, because I it. It writes differently than I do.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: And it. That's better than I do.
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Joey Myers: Hey!
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tim: But you know, if I give it, if I give it. 500 to a thousand words, which is um, which is what I normally do.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: It'll give me back. Something that I wanted to say.
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tim: You know, in a better form.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: On the marketing side. Now I hadn't done that. Uh just yet, but you know we'll.
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tim: We're gonna give that a try.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: You know, we just hired up. Marketing firm this week.
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tim: For Google ads and Google search and all that good stuff because we're. We're on Amazon and ebay and all that stuff, and it's an unfamiliar place for us. So.
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Joey Myers: Well, that can be a a different talk that we can have, too, cause that's that's kind of my strong suit is a marketing side of things, so I can help you out. You know. I mean you got it. You hired this companies, but I can kind of give you some. Things to maybe ask them about, or I mean they. I'm sure they know what they're doing. But with your product it's a little different, because it's.
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tim: Not. Really. I don't think anybody. I think this is uncharted for all of us, even though they've played baseball and know a bit about it.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: I mean getting to that dad, or that weekend coach, or the. Grandparents. It's actually coaching because nobody else wants to coach.
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tim: You know, and then you look at the High School Market. You know where you jump up in the ego set. They're just a little bit higher.
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tim: You know. But we continue to get phone calls and we've sold. We keep selling to the colleges. You know, that are returning, and guys that move from school to school and place to place, and all that good stuff.
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tim: We've got a good return customer base. But we we really need to get out of that and get into.
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tim: Little league, baseball, little league, softball. And I think that's.
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tim: That's where we have to be.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, I don't know how hard it's gonna be. But uh we're willing to go the mile. I mean. We've already been out here a long time.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: And sold a lot of product to a lot of really good teams.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: And uh. Getting that message to that consumer.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: And yeah.
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Joey Myers: Well, and part of it, too, and and I've.
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tim: Go.
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Joey Myers: We have mutual friends and things that are that know better. Right? They've been in it. Shoot, I think. Who is it that had the out in.
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Joey Myers: Not Tennessee they were out in. Who was it. They were using the product and and the son's. Now, I think, a junior senior in high school.
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Joey Myers: And Dad's a copyright attorney or copyright business acquisitions. Attorney. Um play bait.
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tim: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Joey Myers: Played baseball and and professionally, and the whole thing, and like they've been using it. And his son been using it since he was 8 years old, you know, V. Flex, and and he's just unstoppable right now. And but Dad got it.
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tim: One of the best in one of the best one of the best in the country. You know that's swinging it strong.
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Joey Myers: Mhm. Yeah, yeah, so that. And that's the message to get to the that crew, because the lower levels right now. And this is some of the problem that I'm finding. So I have a 12 year old son, who you can see in the background here. This is when he was younger.
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Joey Myers: He's back there somewhere in one of these pictures.
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tim: Yeah.
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Joey Myers: And now he's 12. And I've deliberately kept them out of travel ball.
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Joey Myers: Just just because and there's nothing against travel ball like, I know, there's going to be people listening that have their kid in travel balls like, what's wrong with travel ball, and there's nothing wrong. With it. But I've chosen to have my son in a competitive rec league. It's probably one of the best competitive rec leagues in the central valley in California.
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Joey Myers: And we play really good. Players and teams, and maybe a little bit more watered down during the season. But when we get into the all stars and we play some pretty dang good talent, and it's a build up in the whole thing. But we've avoided it because there's a lot of bad teams. There's bad coaches on the travel ball side of things, and I wanted to be able to just have my hands on my son and his his teammates and control their development as they they shifted through. So I understand the value.
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Joey Myers: V. Flex. And you know, the only thing that was holding me back to be able to bring it out to practice is that we had the big ones that we had that you had before before you went back and redesigned it so that it's easier to take 2 different locations, because that's what you're dealing with with. Travel ball is they get to a field a lot of times in softball as well. They pop up all their bonnets, and because they don't know if they have a cage or not available batting cage. So they pop up the bone.
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tim: Bye.
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Joey Myers: They start to work. Now with what you guys have done with revamping the mobility of V. Flex. Now that is something of a reality. Where they can take that with them they can pop up the bone, app, pop up the V. Flex, and then ready to go, you know. So I think our talk about what about a year ago about that.
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Joey Myers: Challenge that you were having. I think that was a big one, especially in travel ball.
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tim: Huge man, and and still, even with the college teams that wanted to travel with it on. The weekends, you know, if they're going to be away for a week or 2 weeks on these big stents that they go on.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Uh, they wanted to travel model to to go with them, and we didn't have it.
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Joey Myers: Mhm yeah, right.
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tim: But now those cases will travel even with those with those Age group girls. Uh, and boys not so much, you know. Exit velocity off of the baseball.
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tim: Lot higher than exhibit velocity off of a softball.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, right.
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tim: So it kind of corners us into the. Softball market a little bit more than we'd like, but.
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tim: That's okay, too, you know.
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Joey Myers: Mhm, yep.
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tim: Because the the overhand model will actually travel pretty good. And in baseball, too. So.
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Joey Myers: Cool. Well, hey? I wanted to ask you some questions like I said, I have some good ones for, especially those that don't know what V. Flex is? I think these questions will really unveil, unveil and unwrap kind of what it is, and it's it's no pressure. I'm not asking some Zinger, trying to trying to.
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tim: Okay. Well, just anytime. I get off.
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tim: Offline you. You bring me back. Cut me off. I don't know if this thing can be edited or not. I hope it can.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, we can edit if you need. If you need me to.
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tim: Well, no, it doesn't matter to me. But if you see something that you know that uh. You don't like, or something like that. That's fine, too. Um!
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tim: I'm pretty hardcore on my science. You know, and I can't help it. It's like.
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tim: Uh! Some of them turn and go the other way from time to time, but.
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Joey Myers: That's okay.
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tim: I can't. I can't help it. I mean, it's just.
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Joey Myers: Well, you can't please everybody, either, and I've learned that in my own stuff I'm very science based and.
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tim: Yeah.
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Joey Myers: Early on. I think I turned away of a lot of people who. Just didn't want to either learn it or they didn't understand it couldn't wrap their head around it. And and that's okay. And I got some negative comments on Facebook posts, or whatever, and.
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Joey Myers: Like I told people it's not for everybody. But the people that have it become raving fans, and they love it because they go out and they try it. And it works and.
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tim: No, no.
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Joey Myers: They tell their friends, and you get more of those kind of people, and I'm not saying that. We want to filter people out, but we do want to filter people out if if they don't get it, or if they don't want to get it. Then.
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Joey Myers: It is what it is, you know there's only.
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tim: Take out the dust off your feet and go on.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: You know, in a Biblical sense, you know, because you but that's that's that is pretty Biblical to us, you know, is.
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Joey Myers: A 100%.
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tim: You offer it to them, and then you move along.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: And you and a lot of people aren't comfortable. With that. I wasn't probably too comfortable that when I was young, but I'm certainly comfortable with it now, because I don't have time. The difference between comprehension.
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tim: And the application of. Something very different.
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tim: You know, big difference between. Learning, or what is it? I I get it versus I got it.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, when they really, when they really got it, they actually do use the product.
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Joey Myers: 100%.
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tim: When they get it, they understand it intellectually.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Or at least they think they do. But if they don't use, it's kind of like.
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tim: Knowing that a seatbelt will uh. Save your life in a car. Crash!
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tim: But if you don't put the seat belt on. It means you really didn't understand the.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: The value of the seat belt. And if you take a V flex stance of.
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tim: You know how important is it that you swing its drives.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, and take bad pitches, and if you don't train that way well, don't expect outcome to be good for you, because it ain't happening.
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Joey Myers: Mhm a hundred percent.
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tim: Baseball and baseball is unforgiving. And the most uh.
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tim: Evolutionary thing out here is science. Science is meant to evolve.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Because we we're humans. We don't know everything. You know, and the science of today is not.
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tim: Reality, tomorrow.
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Joey Myers: Mhm, yep.
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tim: I promise you. You know I wrote a book about 6 years ago. It's over 200 years old now.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: You know, neurological information day doubles daily.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: So you know. It's almost impossible to write an up to date book on.
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tim: The probabilities and statistics of neurologically understanding what's happening in the brain.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, so you have to walk lightly and tread lightly. But you do have to speak with some authority, or people will kind of just wash you away. You know.
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Joey Myers: Think you're a weirdo and say, Oh, he doesn't know anything, even though it's 1 thing that's now been maybe disproven, or just. Proven a different way, or whatever.
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tim: Yeah, yeah.
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Joey Myers: So let me ask you this, how did your your first, st your 25 years of researching the neural paths of light in the brain influence. The development of the V. Flex hitting system.
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tim: Yeah. Ask me that one more time.
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Joey Myers: So how did your 25 years of researching the neuropaths of light in the brain. Influence the development of the V-flex hitting system.
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tim: Oh! It was more uh.
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tim: I started researching after I had my epiphany about. How does the brain actually handle light.
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tim: You know? What are you know? How did the brain make. The baseball, you know. What does the baseball look like inside the brain?
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tim: Is it actually a ball, or is it a. The matrix of a ball, you know.
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tim: Virtual, baseball. And as I.
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tim: Went deeper past my understanding of you know. How do you create. These focal zones.
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tim: For hitters, because I started out working with hitting and kind of just gravitated into the pitching side. A little bit later. But uh the research, you can't read very much about.
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tim: Neurology and baseball.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: The 2 don't go together.
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Joey Myers: Right.
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tim: Those they're fuller offices. Because baseball is more based in psychology than it is in neurology.
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tim: And almost every coach out there. Is a raw raw, or you can overcome it with will and.
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tim: I mean, if you really want it, you can get it kind of mentality, and that's all the game has ever known, because they didn't speak. Uh neurological language. They didn't know that you could recruit neurons.
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tim: Into a specific field inside your receptive field. Make the ball appear to be.
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tim: Brighter, or the space to be more vivid than it actually is. So uh.
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tim: A lot of mine have been hands on. Let's try this and see what the results are.
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tim: Kind of stuff, because. At some point, you know, I'll publish my research.
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tim: You know, as I go through, but when you hold patents like I do, you don't put a lot out there in the public eye. You know, because you're gonna get knocked off at some point.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know. But uh. It's been kind of.
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Joey Myers: Cause you you. You revealed to me in a past conversation about. Where this kind of originated, where you were I don't know. If you were, you had friends that were comatose, or you had patients at one time that were comatose, and you were doing these experiments where.
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Joey Myers: They eyes were open like catatonic. They weren't saying anything, weren't. Nothing, nothing happening, and and.
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Joey Myers: From your research. You were doing certain things. That brought them back.
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tim: Well, just my understanding of. I had a cousin that that fail on one of my job sites. I'm a general contractor by trade, an educator by profession, psychology, sociology, economics, political science, world, history, world, geography. I taught 14 different contents.
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tim: At the high school level and. Not counting the the sports. I coach, baseball, basketball, and softball.
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tim: But my injury to my cousin. And you know she was.
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tim: Had 7 years before she knew her name. After the fall. 9 days before she opened her eyes. 145 on life support.
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tim: And watching her with a psychological background that I had. Uh, began to try to interpret what her brain was trying to do.
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tim: Finding its way back into consciousness. For so many years. She wasn't conscious. She couldn't have a.
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tim: Cognitive or conscious conversation with you. But you know I watched her do math.
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tim: Endlessly. She would count from one to a million.
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tim: As as super computer speed, like (123) 456-7819, and she just keep counting, counting, counting, counting, and then she'd go back, and she'd do it backwards, and she would do other things. But she didn't know she was. She didn't know she was in the world.
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tim: And her brain was expressing what it was, what it was actually trying to fix. As an open book, which was amazing.
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tim: When somebody would come into the room and begin to play an instrument. That played a sad song. Instantly she would cry.
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tim: And then the next song they would play would be happy. And as in an instant she would turn to happy.
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tim: Which told me that she was actually wired. To the emotions that she was having.
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tim: That they were instantaneous. They weren't a cognitive interface. Of any kind, so.
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tim: That that put me in this whirlwind, or. Span of uh.
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tim: How can I get inside that brain and do some work. For her, since she doesn't know.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: What's going on? Would I be able to create. An exercise program for her brain.
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tim: Not for her. But could I put images in front of her that her brain would try to. Complete, or make an image.
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tim: You know where. It would get some spatial.
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tim: Exercise, because when you're unconscious, it means you don't know where you are. You have no idea of the relationship between you and space.
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tim: So that was my epiphany was man. I can. Enhance the space enough.
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tim: To help the brain find its way.
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Joey Myers: Hmm.
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tim: You know, because you can't do that by using language.
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Joey Myers: Hmm.
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tim: You know, one of the key things I've heard in baseball is all these verbal cues and verbal clues about. You know you need to be on better time, and you need to do this and do that. And it's like man. We can't do that in a visual system you have to give the brain visual information, and it will.
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tim: It'll find its way. To the center of that ball, but you have to.
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tim: Help it find a way there.
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Joey Myers: Yeah. And I think that's what people forget is when especially you're teaching something like the strike zone. Kids, especially at the younger ages. That's why I think this is probably more crucial for.
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Joey Myers: Younger age kids in that. All the way from 3 or 4 years old to where they can actually hold a bat and swing it, or whatever.
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Joey Myers: Because they start off off the T. Which I don't think helps. But I understand we need a starting point. But once they go from the tee to machine or kid pitch, then they see this ball being spit out of a spot.
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Joey Myers: And there's all this space and time that they're looking at. We want them all to focus on the ball.
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Joey Myers: Which they do. But then that ball has to go through a strike zone has to go through an area. Well, how do you teach kids.
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Joey Myers: That area and only to swing within that area and outside. And so what inspired you to focus on strike zone awareness as a cornerstone of the V. Flex hitting system.
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tim: I was a horrible hitter. Uh, you know, I was a great glove in college, and could have probably played at a higher level than d 1. But.
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tim: Uh! I chased a lot of bad pitches. I was a lead off hitter and still chase bad pitches and. My coaches hated me, and they worked their ass off to help me.
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tim: But they there was no way that I could get any better at swinging at strikes. You know. Uh! Never in my life did I ever want to swing at a ball. Never did I want to disappoint my coaches.
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tim: You know I never intentionally swung at a ball in my life, and I've swung it plenty of them. So I really wanted to know what was the mechanism that made old Dad here.
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tim: Swing at bad pitches. And through the Epiphany.
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tim: It came to me that. You can border the strike zone.
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tim: But you have to border it with energy. Not complete images. You can't hang a rectangle out in space and throw a ball through a rectangle.
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tim: You have to build the corners of the rectangle. And let the brain complete the rectangle.
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tim: From electrical impulses, so that it has an internal. Strike zone, and not an external one.
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tim: Because if the rectangle is complete. Say, a set of wires or sticks, or something like that.
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tim: Uh, that is external. When we talk about implicit, I mean completely. Implicit, completely made by the brain.
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tim: So all you get to do is put the 2 corners in and the 2 corners in at the bottom. Maybe the center sticks in the. In one other place, but the brain will actually make you.
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tim: An energy signature. The strike. John.
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Joey Myers: Mhm, I love that. Yeah. And it it gives, like, you said, energy or life. For an area, and it almost like it draws the eyes for me. Being a marketing guy, we want to draw the eyes to the most important parts of a website. So if we want somebody to click a certain button.
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tim: Yes.
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Joey Myers: We're going to take that button color, and we're going to make it. Typically the sunset colors are the better ones. They're the yellows and oranges and reds. Sometimes you can use green and things like that. But it depends on the theme of the website. You want it to be different. Right. And so the environment. Of waiting for a ball to come through an area when you start to, when people check out who haven't heard of V Flex before, and they see.
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Joey Myers: You guys devices the the setups they're gonna see? Oh, they're going to get it right away. It's just having to be. Shown. Okay, okay. Now, I get what's what's going on there uh.
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Joey Myers: And you've worked with like, have you? Is it 17 Mlb. Organizations, or more.
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tim: I have, yeah.
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Joey Myers: 17, and then numerous college teams you mentioned earlier.
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tim: 100.
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Joey Myers: Can you share a standout success story from one of these partnerships or a couple of these partnerships?
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tim: Uh man. Most of our bigger uh success have been in d 1 college softball, you know, the Oklahoma.
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Joey Myers: Oh!
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tim: Girl softball team. They're unbeatable, almost.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, but they've been with us for about 10 years. They've broken more records than you shake a stick at.
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tim: You know, and uh, they buy new product every year. But they're distraction.
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Joey Myers: And how long have they been? How long have you been in over there with him?
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tim: No, they've been using V. Flex for about 10 years.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: So has Florida. Uh. You know, but you look at their strike. Swinging probabilities is what we went back historically and looked at is what were their probabilities of swinging at strikes.
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tim: In all pitch counts, because. There's supposed to be an expression.
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tim: Of a behavior. That shows that you've been training on B flags.
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tim: And we saw that right away Dr. Les Anderson did a. 25 team.
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tim: Study for us for 3 years. And studied V-flex trained teams and non Vflex. Trained teams.
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:11.000
tim: In Oklahoma and. Florida. In that group of Vflex trained users.
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tim: The most. It's kind of like their strike swinging probabilities before V. Flex. Were in the 65 percentile.
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tim: No team in the in our 1st subset. No team ever broke the barrier of. 65% strike swinging probability in all pitch counts.
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:37.000
tim: Now. There are bunches of V flex teams.
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tim: That are in the 85 to 94 percentile. In all pitch, counts.
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tim: And the teams that. Never picked up on V-flex, never trained on V-flex.
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:54.000
tim: Refused to train on V-flex. They never broke the barrier of 65.
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Joey Myers: Hmm.
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tim: And it was like man, live. Our teams are gonna win.
00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:07.000
tim: Lot of championships, because these other teams aren't really uh. Embracing, you know, strap swinging.
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tim: Technologies and. You know you talked about.
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tim: That little rectangle stripe zone. Or, however you want to. That zone we talk about for the stripe zone. You know one of the deeper.
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tim: Acknowledgments is. The brain. When those eyes move away from that strike zone you talk about drawing that.
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tim: Person's attention to that location that's through a negative image. You can't do that with a positive image. You can't do that with refracted light. You have to do that with.
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:52.000
tim: Something that's missing, drawing kind of like a black hole. That's drawing all the information to your specific location.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: And what happens with the V flex devices is that attraction is so strong. That when the eyes move away from that location, the brain instantaneously.
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:12.000
tim: Recognizes that it's a ball. It's not a cognitive interface. This was the the ticket with Tammy, my cousin.
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:20.000
tim: Is, I wanted to see the direct correlation. Of, yeah, dude, did I create enough focus.
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:29.000
tim: That the brain, without having to go through a cognitive loop. Go through a reflex loop, but instantaneously recognize what's a ball in a stripe?
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:41.000
tim: Because that's the same thing that would have to happen in classical conditioning with an animal. If you wanted to train an animal to attack a large person in a door.
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:49.000
tim: And not attack the small person in the door that would have to be a direct link between reward. And punishment for.
00:26:49.000 --> 00:27:00.000
tim: You know how you're actually trying to train that behavior. And it's built into our devices, you know, so that there's as little or minimal.
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:07.000
tim: Psychological, or. Cognitive thinking about the strive zone as as we could possibly put in. There.
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:19.000
Joey Myers: 1. 1 thing that I I heard you say was, all counts, all counts. It helps in all counts. So. For those coaches out there, or parents out there that are struggling their kiddo boy or girl.
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:24.000
Joey Myers: Struggling with 2 strike counts, striking out a lot. And it could be because.
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:31.000
Joey Myers: I find more so that they're being too passive. Because they're being too fine with their strike zone. Right? They're being too.
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:51.000
Joey Myers: Narrow with it, and they take a lot of strikes, and we all know that umpires tend to widen their zone with 2 strikes just. Whether it's at a it's happening without them thinking about it, or they're doing it because of it. But 1, 2 baseballs or 1 2 softballs outside the zone they're calling that strike. Now imagine.
00:27:51.000 --> 00:28:03.000
Joey Myers: Your kiddo understanding that strike zone even in oh, 2, 1, 2, and 2, 2, 3, 2 counts. And being able to distinguish between strike and ball, knowing what is and what isn't, and if.
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:11.000
Joey Myers: You have to extend it a little bit, then you can extend it a little bit. But being good in all counts, that's 85%, 65 to 85% in all counts.
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:19.000
tim: Yeah. It's uh. That's part of the. The mystic stuff of baseball.
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:28.000
tim: You know where guys want you to be super aggressive. You know, in specific counts, and it'll always get you out.
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:34.000
tim: Because a good pitcher knows when you're going to be aggressive. You know, so they can throw all.
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:39.000
tim: You know that 2 balls off the Zone. And you look at.
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tim: Dr. Anderson's Research. All right.
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:51.000
tim: Balls are hit hard. 2% of the time. Drives are hit hard. 18 to 20% of the time.
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:57.000
tim: So trying to expand the kids zone is not what I would actually.
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.000
Joey Myers: Hmm, mhm.
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:05.000
tim: Advocate, for my goal is to make sure you don't take. Or you don't miss a strike that you should have hit.
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:18.000
tim: You know you get yourself in bad counts because you took a strike down the middle, or you get yourself in a bad count because you missed your pitch. And if you train the brain to actually not miss that pitch.
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:29.000
tim: And you're going to get a better result. You're going to take the umpires. Ability to take the game away from you out of that, because it's in your hands. If you train the strike zone correctly.
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:38.000
tim: You know you're not gonna have many bad. Judgments in in that game for for strikes, you know.
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:48.000
tim: What we've seen is a lot of times a normal team will. To wing it around 15 bad pitches, a game.
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:56.000
tim: 1518. Or they'll actually take strikes. So when you look at bad decisions and good decisions.
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:02.000
tim: You know, it's in that 15 to 20. Range, but teams that train on V flags.
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.000
tim: 9 is an awful lot.
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.000
Joey Myers: Hmm.
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:12.000
tim: For the whole game, you know. You see, a lot of V flex teams that'll make. 6 bad decisions in a game.
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:17.000
tim: Through all hitters and. You can't beat that man, but you can't give up an extra.
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tim: You know 10, or 12, or. So pitches because those are all outs for you.
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:36.000
Joey Myers: Yeah. Well, in one of the 0 or our 0 1 strike strategy that we use with my hitters is, we say, the 3. There's 3 rules. So the 1st rule is, don't get to 2 strikes. The second rule is, don't miss the 1st one.
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:45.000
Joey Myers: And the and the 3rd rule is, if you miss the 1st one, don't miss the second one. And so that's that's the thing right? You're talking about missing strikes like.
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.000
tim: Yeah.
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Joey Myers: Sometimes I think, my son, the other night he 1st about of the game he leads off because he gets on pretty. He has pretty good on base percentage, and he and he hammers the ball, too. But he took his 1st 2, took the 1st 2, and I'm a 3rd base coach, you know, after he misses the 1st one I go. Don't you miss the second one?
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:08.000
Joey Myers: And then he either fouls one back the second one, so he misses the second one. Now. And now he's got 2 strikes, and he's got a battle.
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:17.000
Joey Myers: And we talk about after the game, and he says he'll ask me, what does he need to work on? I said, Well, 1st at that. We missed 2 opportunities.
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:24.000
Joey Myers: Number one. You didn't swing at the 1st one. So then you couldn't make a swing adjustment because you don't know what swing you're using. Second one. He swings under.
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:39.000
Joey Myers: And then usually after that, we make them swing over. We want them to make an adjustment on where they're hitting the ball. But then he had 2 strikes, so there was 2 opportunities. I said you could have hammered the ball, but we missed the 1st one and then missed the second one. So that goes right along with not missing it at all.
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:46.000
tim: Yeah. The the issue is, you know. And in a simple look at what you just said.
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:50.000
tim: When that 1st pitch is thrown. What's it doing in there.
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:58.000
tim: I mean, did it just go hit a wall and fall to the ground. Or is it going through a reverberating circuit.
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:11.000
tim: And the more pitches you take. The more chatter or more noise electrically you'll have in the brain, and the brain will have a little bit of a difficulty trying to find the true signal off the next pitch.
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:19.000
tim: The deal is, if you actually swing and. And foul a pitch off. You'll get a clean slate for the next pitch.
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:27.000
tim: You will have some information that your brain can use, and timing and all that other stuff to help you square that next pitch up.
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:34.000
tim: But how you get to 2 stripes is. It can be tricky in the brain.
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:43.000
tim: You know, getting to 2 strikes by swinging and fouling pitches all, and fouling good pitches off, you know. Not so bad, and.
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:49.000
tim: Swinging at a 3rd strike, and it's a strike. Well, I mean, you can't help that. That's part of the game.
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.000
tim: You know, but.
00:32:51.000 --> 00:33:02.000
Joey Myers: Yeah, interesting. So how I know we mentioned we talked a little bit already about the new version. But how do the new? The next generation, B flex products improve. Upon the original designs for individual athletes.
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:10.000
tim: Well, it lets the it lets the individual be able to afford them, you know, because our old products for about 500 bucks a piece or so.
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:23.000
tim: Now you're looking at a hundred 4,030. 50 bucks, you know, for a really good training piece that uh anybody can train you, you know, as long as you have the V flex, because.
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:29.000
tim: It's the V Flex that the brain's going to respond to. It's not the coach, it's not.
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:36.000
tim: You don't have to be an expert to to train, strike recognition. You know, and that goes against a lot of.
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:52.000
tim: Grain, you know, because you got a lot of guys working on the swing and all the mechanics and all that stuff. But Tony Gwynn told me, he said, man, the swing always breaks down when you swing at a ball. He said, if you want to be a good hitter, swing at stripes.
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:56.000
tim: And he said, You'll see very few bad swings and strikes.
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:04.000
tim: You know you always see the the swing break down when you swing at a bad pitch. So. Tony Gwynn was one of our greatest advocates man. He loved.
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.000
tim: What we did with that. But it's. These new pieces are.
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:15.000
tim: So easy to put in a car, put in the back of the pickup truck. Take them anywhere you want to break them down. Go with you.
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:25.000
Joey Myers: Are they like when you break them down? Uh they come in a bag, I'm sure. Right it all comes in a bag. Is it like a bonnet? Is it like a bonnet type bag type, that kind of thing.
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.000
tim: But uh. Bye, bye.
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:31.000
tim: Yeah, they get a carrot. You got a children. It is. But we because we're a training product, you know, you're not hitting balls into them.
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:35.000
Joey Myers: Not a bonus. I'm sorry, like in um. I'm trying to judge the size, the size.
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:37.000
tim: Yeah, no, no, you're not. They are. They are. They aren't on that type.
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:46.000
tim: Uh product. But we we beefed up all the rods. All the other components so that they could actually take a beating.
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.000
tim: During their training set. So.
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.000
Joey Myers: But is it about the size of that bag, that bonnet bag.
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.000
tim: Yeah, yeah.
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.000
Joey Myers: Yeah, mhm mhm.
00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:00.000
tim: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just about 4 feet long and. You know. Get all your components in there.
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.000
tim: All that good stuff. Yep.
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:17.000
Joey Myers: Yeah, much, much more attainable, I think, for most out there that even the ones there's some real gadget people that love to get they'll spend the money on the gadgets, you know, no matter what it is. And then there's some that are a little bit more skeptical. And so they're like, yeah, but the price is a little high, I think. Now.
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.000
tim: Yeah, much more attainable. I think.
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:24.000
Joey Myers: The way it all is. I think it's a lot easier lower. Lower barrier of entry, of being able to test the product and.
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:39.000
Joey Myers: I know people will love it. But there's going to have those skeptical ones out there that are going to go. Do I really want to spend the 150, and I would say for sure, because it's not something that you're going to think you use it a few times, or even a week.
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:49.000
Joey Myers: Let me put it on you. How long would you say to use it? Does it take effect right away? Is it a week? Is it a month like what? Generally how long it takes.
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:58.000
tim: Not long. Man about uh. Instantly. To be honest with you. It's kind of like going into the weight room and starting to work out with a set of weights.
00:35:54.000 --> 00:36:00.000
Joey Myers: Mhm. Mhm.
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:03.000
tim: Those neurons are no different than muscle fibers. They're carrying electrical current.
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:10.000
tim: And the instant that you put one of our devices in front of your brain or your. Hitter.
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:17.000
tim: Their brain begins to try to filter through all this electrical information. And for the.
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:22.000
tim: Strike swinging probabilities to start changing in games about 2 weeks.
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:28.000
tim: You know, if you use it 3 days a week. 15Ā min.
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.000
Joey Myers: 1520Ā min, mhm.
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.000
tim: 1520Ā min, not long.
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:36.000
tim: You know you have to look at the condensed. Version of the strike Zone.
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:43.000
tim: You know. Uh. You're looking at one swing with a V flex in front of you.
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:48.000
tim: Might be worth. 25 swings without it.
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.000
Joey Myers: Yeah.
00:36:48.000 --> 00:37:00.000
tim: You'd have to swing at least 25 times to gather the same amount of information that you could gather with one swing. That information has to be in the space, though.
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:08.000
tim: The window that you're actually using to hit the ball. Uh, if you increase the percentage of data.
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:13.000
tim: That goes along with that swing. Your brain can learn exponentially.
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:28.000
tim: And that's why V. Flex teams love what we do. I mean, it's like. A lot of the freshmen play like sophomores, and a lot of the sophomores play like juniors and seniors. Now they don't have the the muscle strength that those do.
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:37.000
tim: But their strike recognition is the same as a junior or senior, because their brains. Are training under the same environment.
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.000
Joey Myers: It's like speed reading and data collection for the strike zone.
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.000
tim: You better believe in it? Yeah.
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.000
Joey Myers: Yeah.
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:48.000
tim: Yeah, you're compressing. The amount of information that the brain can. It's not zip in a file.
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.000
tim: In the computer, you know, if you can put that.
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:37:52.000 --> 00:38:02.000
tim: Information in there that makes sense to the brain. You know where this ball is in this quadrant? This ball is going to be an inside pitch. This ball is going to be an outside pitch.
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.000
tim: And the sooner you can help the brain recognize that. That's why our pieces.
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:17.000
tim: Are placed where they are, you know. They replace the front, toss pieces at about 12 feet in front of home plate. We'll do the overhand pieces at 20 to 25 to 30 feet in front of home plate.
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.000
tim: So that the brain sees the strike zone out there.
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.000
tim: Not back here at home plate. The strike zone has to be recognized.
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.000
tim: You know. Out front.
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:35.000
Joey Myers: Right? Right? I love that. So your book, turn your brain on. Took 3 years to write. What's the most surprising insight you uncovered during that process.
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.000
tim: Oh, uh.
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.000
Joey Myers: I'm sure there's many, but what's what's.
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:46.000
tim: Okay. Uh.
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:53.000
tim: I guess uh. The way that the brain rewards itself.
00:38:53.000 --> 00:39:00.000
tim: You know, so that it really doesn't need the pats on the back, you know, when you talk about implicit training.
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:07.000
tim: And you're inside this world that that's in there. The brain.
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:14.000
tim: Will reward itself for a good behavior. Whether the coach does or not.
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:21.000
tim: You know, and when you look at. The dopaminergic pathways, and how the brain.
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:32.000
tim: Actually does that it it taught me the the greatest, one of the greatest surprises of all. Was that you can't teach a hitter to take a ball.
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.000
Joey Myers: Hmm.
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:41.000
tim: You know. Right now we're trying to do that. We've been trying to do that for a long time. That's why everybody's getting worse and worse and worse, instead of better, better, better.
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:50.000
tim: But they're trying to do something that's neurologically impossible. Uh, you can't. There's no reward given for the ball.
00:39:51.000 --> 00:40:02.000
tim: When you just stand there and take a pitch. Uh, there's no information going to the brain so that it can reward itself other than a cognitive.
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.000
tim: Oh, man, I did good. I took that pitch. But there was no physical feedback.
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:13.000
tim: To go with it. You didn't reach a. A threshold for release of dopamine.
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:26.000
tim: You'll get dopamine when you hit the ball hard, you square the pitch up, and your brain will self reward itself. Through that process. But you can't train a hitter to take a ball. You can only get them.
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:33.000
tim: Really great at swinging, at strikes. The ball expression comes from your ability to.
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:42.000
tim: The swing at a strike, so. It's really tricky, you know, when it comes to classical conditioning of and understanding what you're seeing.
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.000
Joey Myers: Hmm.
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:51.000
tim: Because we live basically 3 quarters of a second in the past. You know what you actually, you're hitting a ball.
00:40:51.000 --> 00:41:01.000
tim: That is, your brain can't process it through a cognitive loop to actually. Generate the swing, you know, and that's the trickiest part is.
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:09.000
tim: And what have we been telling our hitters, and why did we tell them that. You know, knowing that the brain.
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:19.000
tim: Couldn't run a cognitive loop to decide the difference between a ball and a strike, and. The hundreds of millionths of a second that you have to do it in.
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:25.000
tim: You know. So when we looked at. Desensitizing the brain.
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:32.000
tim: To a ball. You know we had to look at you know. How do you do that, you know, and it comes back to.
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:45.000
tim: If you basically in a in a parable type sense, if you want to train a hitter or train somebody to actually. Know the difference between a real dollar bill and a counterfeit dollar bill.
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:56.000
tim: You teach them the original dollar, which what we're doing is training you to only swing at strikes. We're not going to teach you.
00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:06.000
tim: The 22 counterfeit dollar bills. Because you don't have enough brain space to learn all the variances that they could actually trick in there and put you.
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:16.000
tim: On that other those other $20 bills. So all we want to do is we're going to train you to swing at strikes. We're going to train you to see the original dollar.
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:25.000
tim: And anything. If your brain knows that original dollar. Instantaneously. When it sees something else, it will know that it's not it.
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:30.000
tim: But you can't train. The peripheral pitches like you would think that you could.
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:38.000
tim: That was one of the greatest things when I got into the brain. It's like. Then it doesn't have time to make these choices.
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:46.000
tim: So how's it doing it? You know. And how can you strengthen the strike pathway so strong.
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:50.000
tim: So strongly that. It won't chase a ball.
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:59.000
tim: And if it does move its eyes away from the V. You know by nature. You move your eyes more than 2 degrees. You have to refocus.
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:12.000
tim: If you create enough attraction in that zone, if your eyes move one degree. Then your brain will shut off. If you've trained it correctly, you can get that space a lot tighter.
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:21.000
Joey Myers: Well, you were talking about earlier positive and negative space, right? And so the negative space of the strike zone. If that's what you're referring to.
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.000
tim: Yes.
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:29.000
Joey Myers: It's finite, it's finite. So there's a certain amount of space there that we can see. We can logically say what it is, what the strike zone is.
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.000
tim: The weekends.
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:44.000
Joey Myers: But the ball, like you said, outside of that is almost infinite. I mean, that could be they could throw a ball any. I mean infinite amount of time spaces around that strike zone right? So why not learn the finite portion which is the strikes.
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.000
tim: Yes. Yes.
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:50.000
Joey Myers: That's a lot easier like you said, like speed reading. Times 50.
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.000
Joey Myers: Because you're learning just what you need to learn.
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:56.000
tim: That's it. And that's how focused you have to be. There.
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:04.000
tim: But in our training, when you train the brain. You have to throw your balls about 2 feet away from the strike zone.
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.000
tim: So that the eyes do move. Greater than 2 degrees.
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.000
Joey Myers: Hmm, mhm.
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.000
tim: So it can build a relationship between.
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.000
Joey Myers: Got it.
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:14.000
tim: If my eyes move 2 degrees, I don't get to swing.
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.000
tim: So.
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.000
Joey Myers: Right.
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.000
tim: It's a basic, you know, simple.
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:35.000
Joey Myers: So you have to. You have to get a. Some sort of physical movement. If it's an eye movement. If it's a like you said with the swing, it's like there's a flush that happens. And it's almost we're starting, we're resetting. So when there's a physical movement, we're teaching our body to almost flush out. So if.
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:32.000
tim: Yes. Yes.
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:44.000
Joey Myers: Like you said, 2 feet out ball away from the strike zone. The eyes have to move, whether it's in one degree or 2 or more. Whatever it is. Anytime. There has to be a movement, you know. Ball.
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:53.000
tim: Yeah, that's in train that's in. That's in our training sets. Now, when you come back to the game, and a guy throws a ball, one pitch, one ball off the zone.
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.000
Joey Myers: An eye, movement.
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.000
tim: You know, in the 1st week or 2 you're gonna struggle a little bit with that.
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:05.000
tim: But as as you train more and more and more with V flash. Your brain will really tighten into that zone.
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:09.000
tim: The way you want it to as a coach.
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.000
Joey Myers: Mhm, I love it.
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.000
tim: You know.
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:21.000
Joey Myers: So Vflex holds patents in multiple sports beyond baseball and softball. What's your vision for expanding this brain-based training approach into other athletic domains for those parents and coaches out there that are doing other sports.
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:27.000
tim: Uh, still implicit training. You know where um.
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:32.000
Joey Myers: Like, say, for basketball, for instance, or you know I don't know what other where the patents are, but you know basketball, football.
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:38.000
tim: Yeah, yeah, I've got. I've got patents in basketball, football uh soccer. I've got 4 patents in golf.
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:40.000
Joey Myers: Mhm. Mhm.
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:41.000
tim: Just received, 2 patents in archery.
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:48.000
tim: And all implicit training, where the brain. Claims itself, rewards itself.
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:54.000
tim: You know um. Where you hit the fairway, 15% more than.
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:00.000
tim: You would normally be able to hit it, because your brain interprets space differently.
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:02.000
Joey Myers: Mhm, Mhm. Hmm.
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:10.000
tim: You know we've never had a. A true way to exercise the spatial neurons, the neurons that carry spatial information.
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.000
tim: You know where we know where we are.
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:17.000
tim: So, no matter what the sport is, we're going to play it in space.
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:25.000
tim: You know, and hopefully. Uh we'll be able to put it in some uh.
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.000
tim: PE classrooms at some point.
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:36.000
tim: You know, it's 1 of my big deals, especially in especially in special needs. Locations. You know where.
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:42.000
tim: The brain isn't functioning. At its. Max can't do it, you know.
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:49.000
tim: Because V. Flex on the brain side, you're uh. You're not costing it anything.
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:55.000
tim: You know the brain loves to reward itself for doing less. It's a lazy organ.
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:55.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:02.000
tim: So you have to present it. Uh something that's not.
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:09.000
tim: Electrically expensive. It's kind of like the stride zone that we're creating for the brain.
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:14.000
tim: It's not. A physical strike zone. It's an electrical.
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:24.000
tim: I mean, it cost it almost no electrical energy to actually build that strike zone. And it loves it because it gets to hit more strikes.
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:28.000
tim: It gets to identify them. You know, and uh.
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.000
tim: Just a good fit for us. Man.
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:38.000
Joey Myers: Yeah, yeah, I love it. Um, so coaches like, Patty gasso. Er gosso gaso, and.
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.000
tim: Yeah, yeah, so.
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:44.000
Joey Myers: Tim Tim Walton praised V. Flex for improving pitch. Recognition. What's the most common feedback you hear from athletes themselves?
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.000
tim: Oh!
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.000
Joey Myers: You mentioned Tony Gwynn right.
00:47:48.000 --> 00:48:01.000
tim: Yeah, help me hit more. Home runs for a lot of our our kids, you know. To be honest with you, we've we've uh. And old coaches that have been in the game a long time. Those are the ones that I really cherish. The guys that have.
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:06.000
tim: Put their time in, you know, 25, and 30 years, and. They'll say, you know.
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:13.000
tim: The most home runs we've ever hit in a season like 25. And they'll call back, and they'll say.
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:18.000
tim: We had 62 home runs this year. What in the world is going on.
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:27.000
tim: Because they don't know. I mean, they just use the system. They don't understand the science. They don't understand how the training works.
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:34.000
tim: Comes back to that comprehension, leads you to understanding what is the meaning. Of what you just learned.
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:47.000
tim: The meaning is that you're going to get more doubles, triples, and home runs because you train this way. You know you like. I said you could understand it cognitively, or have an intellectual understanding of it.
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:56.000
tim: And so, man, I really like that. That guy got it, I mean, he he figured it out. And but they won't put it in their batting cage.
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:00.000
tim: You know, because they don't understand what that means.
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:07.000
tim: And but I love. Amy. I guess it could be.
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:27.000
Joey Myers: Well, even batting average. I mean, they're not a lot of the metrics. Same metrics stuff. Now you listen to Mlb network, and they hate batting average because it doesn't reward walks like on base percentage. Does. You know, it doesn't factor in walks to that. But batting average is just a it's a number. It's another measurement.
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.000
tim: I don't like.
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:33.000
Joey Myers: That. Just another statistic and.
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:37.000
tim: It is, hey? Let me give you an example here with Coach Walton Walton. He called me.
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.000
Joey Myers: Yeah.
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.000
tim: About 3rd 3, rd his 3rd or 4th year on V-flex. He's been with us 10.
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:50.000
tim: And he said, Hey, Tim, he said, man, I've got 9 identical hitters. I said, and he said, I've never had that. I said, what do you mean? He said. They all.
00:49:50.000 --> 00:50:00.000
tim: Take the same. He said. They all hit different because they're all got different bodies and everything. But he said. Their shutoff mechanisms are identical.
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.000
tim: And that really.
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:12.000
tim: I knew that he quote. Got it. Know that you're if you have 9 hitters that are taking pitches.
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:18.000
tim: The same. Then you're gonna see some huge improvements. Throughout your batting order, he said.
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:23.000
tim: Well, that particular year. I believe it was. No, it was the 1st year on B-flex.
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:29.000
tim: They had never walked over them. 189 times in season.
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:41.000
tim: Their 1st year on V-flex. They walked 419 times. You know, but it was like, or hit by pitch, you know they were. They were free back free passes.
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:42.000
Joey Myers: Mhm. Mhm.
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:50.000
tim: And uh, it was like man what is going on to him? And I said, Man. They're using the same piece of equipment.
00:50:50.000 --> 00:51:00.000
tim: And their brains are all responding basically the same. If you lift a 20 pound weight. That 20 pound weight feels basically the same to just about everybody.
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:09.000
tim: And when you put these negative images in front of these hitters, their brains all respond. Basically the same. Because the common denominator between all hitters is.
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:15.000
tim: They're seeing the ball in space, a ball traveling through space and time.
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:42.000
Joey Myers: Yeah, yeah, that that's powerful for for those coaches listening out there at any level, because the one biggest things that I get with my hitter and. You know, because I haven't been able to mobilize it. Get it to a field. It has to stay at my house, so if we're going to use it. We have to use it at my house, you know. But the one thing just, you know, not even talking V. Flex. But talking about guys hitting in a particular part of the zone. These coaches, other coaches that play us, they say.
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:49.000
Joey Myers: Man you just can't throw. You can't throw strikes. To Joey's hitters. You just can't throw strikes to him.
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:56.000
Joey Myers: So this is something. That coaches like you said don't have to understand mechanics.
00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:13.000
Joey Myers: They could even be teaching something completely opposite of somebody else, like swing down, swing up. Defensive hitting offense. It doesn't matter what they're teaching mechanically has no relevance to it. It helps all hitters.
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:07.000
tim: Won't matter doesn't matter.
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.000
Joey Myers: All hitters.
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.000
tim: Everyone, every one of them.
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.000
Joey Myers: Yeah.
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:22.000
tim: That if they don't respond to V flex. At some point.
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.000
tim: I think will be a diagnostic tool.
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.000
Joey Myers: Hmm.
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:34.000
tim: In the right place. Your brain. Is going to have some form of anomaly, I think later in life, if your brain doesn't respond.
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:43.000
tim: To be flex when it's this close to it. Working in this particular set of. Learning, behaviors.
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.000
tim: You know it does help everybody.
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.000
tim: I'm just insane to be honest with you.
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.000
Joey Myers: Like magic. Some my my hitters.
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:56.000
tim: Well, it's easy, easy. 8 out of easy. 8 out of 10.
00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:58.000
Joey Myers: Mhm, Mhm.
00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:01.000
tim: Easy, you know. No way around it, you know.
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:05.000
Joey Myers: Right. Like magic.
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:09.000
tim: Well it it is because it was a true epiphany for me.
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:11.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:18.000
tim: You know. How do you create a stripe zone out of nothing? You know I was in Hebrews 11, 3, when I was studying.
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:26.000
tim: A Sunday school lesson, and. Struggling with my high school baseball guys and.
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:33.000
tim: They kept swinging at pitches like I would swing at. And it's like man. This is bad.
00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:39.000
tim: You know. But Tony Gwynn even told me. He said. Man, he said. I'm a great hitter, but he said, I can't.
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:45.000
tim: Transfer that to my hitters, he said. They just. I can't give them Tony Wynn.
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.000
tim: And I said, I understand. You know so what you.
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:59.000
tim: You just want to do it, you know. Bye, bye.
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:07.000
Joey Myers: Yeah. Yeah. Well, looking ahead. Now, how do you see advancements in neuroscience? Further evolving V Flex's technology over the next. Decade or so.
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.000
Joey Myers: So what do you see? It's coming up.
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:15.000
tim: For us. For us. I'm we're going back. We're going down to the lower levels.
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:22.000
tim: Uh, we're going to uh. Let the game do what the game does.
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.000
tim: And we're gonna do what we do.
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.000
Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:33.000
tim: Which is, we're gonna lay the foundation for. The next several generations.
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:44.000
tim: That the language will have to create language for V flags. I wish it weren't so. I've struggled for years to even speak a coherent sentence.
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:50.000
tim: To a baseball guy. That it wouldn't make his head explode.
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:56.000
tim: You know so. Um. I don't get out there and do a lot of.
00:54:56.000 --> 00:55:04.000
tim: Talking about V. Flex. On Youtube or anything like that. I just let our products do their own talking.
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:09.000
tim: And hopefully. You know, we can. Turn the tide of uh.
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:16.000
tim: The psychological portion of the game. Back, into.
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:25.000
tim: A more neurological based approach to. To hitting and to Fielding, and to throwing, and all that stuff.
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:29.000
tim: You know, it's just my. That's my heart desire, anyway.
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:36.000
tim: You know, cause I've been up there around the big guys and uh. And they got a lot of luggage.
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:44.000
tim: You know they've got years and years and years that they'll have to unpack. Before they could actually become a V flexer.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:50.000
tim: Because they don't understand. They were taught a different way, and.
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tim: That's the hill we've had to climb. You know, almost every Major League organization I went to had at least.
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:04.000
tim: 5, and many of them had 10 experts that would. We're there to.
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:09.000
tim: Challenge, or. Disprove, or.
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tim: Some, some something. You know that.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: They want they couldn't understand. They saw the value of the flex to a degree, but they couldn't. Wrap their mind around.
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tim: Something so simple as. Be flags.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: But now I think the common man can. I think the dad can, and I think the mom can. Because it's an easy product to use.
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:42.000
tim: And the benefits I had. I had a kid. That hadn't hit a baseball, couldn't hit a baseball, had 2 lazy eyes.
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:48.000
tim: And I started training him on V flags. And within a couple of weeks.
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tim: He never struck out again. In the season. His mom and dad and his ophthalmologists were like.
00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:03.000
tim: What did you just do to this boy. And it's like, Well, I don't really know just yet.
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:08.000
tim: Because I'm not an eye doctor. But I do know that his brain began to.
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:14.000
tim: Interpret the signals coming from the ball. Because we had information around the ball.
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:21.000
tim: It made the ball appear larger. And it helped his brain find the signal off that ball.
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tim: Because that's what the evidence told me.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know you can't go into the Kid's brain and see what the brain did to fix all that. But you can see a kid that.
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:40.000
tim: Was striking out every single time. And then he a couple of weeks later, you know his. His life has changed.
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:48.000
tim: He hits one off the wall. His confidence level goes up, his brain begins to feed itself. The dopamine and the reward.
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:58.000
tim: Just from simply not overhand, throwing the ball really hard, working him on a curve ball and all that stuff, but just helping him find the true signal off the ball.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.000
tim: You know. Crazy stuff, man.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, what would be interesting is in a perfect world, and everybody's using V. Flex, and had a perfect sense of the strike zone.
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:04.000
tim: Oh, thanks! Peter!
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Joey Myers: I wonder what happened to pitchers.
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tim: Uh next or not. It makes them pitch to contact.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, true.
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tim: Because because uh. V flex hitters.
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.000
tim: Will walk their way to the World Series.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:30.000
tim: And a walks, a thousand percent.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:35.000
tim: I mean, a walk's more likely to score than a single is.
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Joey Myers: At the lower levels for sure. Yeah, all the Steve, a stealing and people can't play catch.
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tim: You know. Yeah.
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tim: Yup, and it's just like, Hey.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: What is the value of a wall? You know, having a good eye, having a good plate discipline.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: And at the lower levels that we're trying to get into. You don't have to have an expert coach to train that kid to do that.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You just have a dad in the backyard. You know my son's. He's got a 9 year old girl, and he's trump. She, he and she are.
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tim: You know. She really struggled. You know. But uh.
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tim: She's getting so much better, so much faster now that he's. Training their own B flags.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, and uh. These dads. They can do that. It's easy, man. Moms, do.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, yeah, very cool. Well, hey, I don't want to take too much more of your time. I know we had good conversation here. So where can people find you if they want to look into V Flex a little bit more. And Youtube website, all that good stuff.
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tim: Yeah, yeah, just uh. vflexsports.com for the website.
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Joey Myers: And that's V with the dash right with the hyphen.
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tim: No.
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Joey Myers: No, just V, and then.
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tim: Deflex sports.com one word, all one word.
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Joey Myers: Flex. Mhm.
00:59:53.000 --> 01:00:01.000
tim: Same thing for x. Instagram. It's all v flex sports at V. Flex sports.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: I love it. So we got a bunch, and we're trying to stay constant. Uh, you know, I'm putting stuff out on Linkedin at least once a week, putting new stuff on tick tock once a week. New stuff on Twitter once a week.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, not trying to overload or anything like that. Eventually we'll have a. A nice training course on Youtube.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know that I intend to. To to put out there where guys can come in and.
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tim: Interact with me a little bit. Ask questions. Anything like that that they want to.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: So uh, it's gonna it's still gonna take us some time, you know, we've been selling for. About 12 years now, you know we've sold.
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tim: I guess, in 5 countries and. You know. Team U.S.A. Softball uses us team. U.S.A. Baseball doesn't. But uh.
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tim: You know, we've got teams all across the world that are training on the system. Even the Chinese international team or national team.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Train on B. Flags. You know so.
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Joey Myers: Anything. Japan Japan hasn't jumped on yet.
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tim: You know I have a patent. My product is patented in Japan.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: But I haven't tried to market there yet.
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Joey Myers: No.
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tim: Just kept it in my pocket.
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Joey Myers: I was. Gonna say, I I could see them. Really come into something like this, because they're.
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Joey Myers: No, you don't think so. Or, Yeah.
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tim: It's hard to say. You know I'm not. I'm not as. Um. I just don't know the the more luggage you have.
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tim: And the more ingrained your system is into your own mentality.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: The whole really is to. To breach that barrier of learning, because.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Yeah. Best. The best thing we can do is just win championships.
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tim: And put the V-flex on the back of the helmet, or.
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Joey Myers: Mhm, Mhm.
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tim: Something like that, because uh. We've won. I think we've 10 in a row now in Women's National.
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tim: Softball, you know.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: I don't think there'll ever be another team. That'll win a.
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tim: National Championship in softball. That's not V-flex trained. And you know.
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tim: 12.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, it's just the probability. And the numbers don't match up. When you're talking about 65, 85% strike swing at strike rate, and everybody else can barely get over 65%. I mean, that's. You got a lot of chasing a high whiff rate that's going to be hard to really do anything.
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tim: Yeah, yeah.
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Joey Myers: Against a team that's got a better.
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tim: The 1st year there were 4. We Flex train teams.
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tim: And one of us one. The next year it was like 5. The next year it was 6. Next year it was 7, and it's been 8, 8, 8 8 for. The last little bit now, but everybody was like.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Because Coach Walton and all these other guys were getting up there saying, You know a little bit about how do you train. Your hitters to take models and all that good stuff, and it it really paid off for us.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, those guys that are helping us out there.
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Joey Myers: Yeah. Well, thanks, Coach Tim, for your time, and and I hope that uh, I know this is like perfect time. I messaged you on X for you. Since you guys started the the new. 2.0 version of E. Flex, and and I'm hoping that somebody out there, a few of them or more out there are. Gonna listen to this and go, man. I didn't even know this existed. And, man, I like you said, get it versus got it right, and see if we can send some more people over there and order in.
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Joey Myers: More V flexes and training with them. Cause, that's what that's what it is. It's really like. With Coach Walt or Walton, Walton.
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tim: Yes.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, you know, you get a I mean, they're influencers, but they're coaches that people respect and look up to, and. Anytime they reveal training secrets that people go. Hmm! I didn't even know that that was a thing that's a thing.
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Joey Myers: And then they start to train with it, and they they get the results from it and the outcome from it. And, like you said, you don't have to know. Why it works. It's like with our cell phones. Right? You have your cell phone. You don't need to know.
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Joey Myers: How it, how it makes a call, how it actually makes a call. All you need to know is, you just dial, you know. Put your person's number in there, click it and dial it. And you know it's the same kind of thing. It's just just put it in. Put it as per directed.
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Joey Myers: And train with it.
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tim: Yeah, at a certain level, though, I mean. Guys want to be seen as experts.
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tim: You know. That's 1 of the drawbacks in baseball.
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Joey Myers: True.
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tim: And all these guys that have these personal experiences. And all this expertise that they've always had is. They're.
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tim: This technology challenges that expert mentality. It really does. And I mean, a lot of guys are turned off by that. It's like.
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tim: Um, you mean? I can't say these words anymore. It's like no cause. They don't mean anything.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You mean all those years of my experience, and I can't say. You know. Stay back, or.
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tim: Something like that, or you know. Yeah, particularly protect homeplate, or whatever.
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Joey Myers: I'll tell you what for me. Well for me to be able to cut away a lot of that. Those words is music to my ears. I don't. I would love to just not say anything during a game, except for be a cheerleader. That's me as a coach.
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Joey Myers: I want my players to succeed, and I and I hate that. I have to. Kind of yell out certain adjustments, or whatever that they need to make. I mean, I would.
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Joey Myers: Probably need to do a better job of getting them to think on their own in that sense. But. You know, at 1011, 12 years old. These kids are.
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Joey Myers: And then when they get to be teenagers, it's a whole nother thing because they got the testosterone hgh chemicals floating around in their brain and their and their bodies. But that would be nice for me to not have to say as much. That's why I say for my hitters that I don't. That aren't on my team on my son's team that I train that are, you know, high school college, and above.
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tim: That's right.
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Joey Myers: I tell them I say, all I'm doing is making your coach's job easier. That's all I'm doing. All I have to do is let you go wind you up, let you go. I make their job easier.
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Joey Myers: And if I have a product like a V flex that can make my job easier as a coach, all I got to do is train with it with my team, make it, make it a station. Could be its own standalone station.
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Joey Myers: And do that. 2, 3, like you said 3 times a week, 15 to 20Ā min each. Everybody's working on it. And just do it. Just put it up in front of your players. Put it up in front of your players. You don't have to know how it works. Just do it.
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Joey Myers: And within months.
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tim: You'll see the result. You'll see the results. You'll hear the bang on that band a whole lot louder than. You're normally hearing it, you know, just we don't throw more than 3 strikes in a row. We got a little bit of.
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tim: Technological stuff that we have to do technique wise so that. The brain doesn't detect that you're doing repetition.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: But I mean, it's just it does make the coaches job easier. I mean, we've been in a lot of facilities and the guys that use them. It's like. Man. How did we ever teach a hitting lesson without this particular.
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tim: And it's like, well, you did a lot of talking.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: And it meant in one ear and out the other to a young man or a young woman.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, but if you could just give them some duct tape. 10. That's.
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Joey Myers: It's hard, you know, you know, as coaches. We want to talk and talk and talk, and some talk more than others, and they want to talk about themselves. Sometimes they want to talk about talk, talk, talk, talk, so.
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tim: Yeah.
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Joey Myers: I know I could see how. That's a challenge.
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tim: Oh, it's awful man. I've been in so many hitting facilities, and I've heard so much talking.
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tim: And I've seen so few. Visual environments.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: That meant anything that surrounded the pitch. You know, and.
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tim: I feel sorry for. For the generations that have been before us.
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Joey Myers: Mhm yeah, yeah.
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tim: To be honest with you, because the it's kind of like living without a computer.
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Joey Myers: No.
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tim: You know, man, I'd hate to have life without one right now.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: It would throw me back a while.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: You know, and I think our products gonna be one of those. It's gonna be here for the next. 100 years. Anyway, I don't think you're ever going to get rid of E flags.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: And I think we're going to get much, much better at. Using the technology.
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tim: In baseball and softball, especially at the younger levels. I do think other sports like golf.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: And basketball.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Uh, and archery, especially where they're individual sports a lot like you know. Uh.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Those those industries are going to love. V. Flex. I don't think you're going to have the pushback. Like you have in Major League baseball, college baseball.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: All these little luggage things that people have been toting around for years.
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Joey Myers: Right.
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tim: You know it means more money in their pocket.
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Joey Myers: Mhm right.
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tim: So I think it'll be good for.
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Joey Myers: Right. Cool. All right, Coach Tim. Well, thank you again, and and we'll have to probably do a part 2 at some point in the future. But I'll um. I'll get you all the the stuff. I'm going to go to work on this. I'm going to try and see if I can get this up next week if I can. Worst case scenario, if not next week. The week after beginning of the week or so, I just did one with Jeff Fry. He's a former Big Leaguer, played with the Red Sox and things, so um, he's kind of on the docket for.
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tim: I'm not the chair. How did you? How did you do that? How'd you? How'd you go with Jeff, man.
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Joey Myers: How did I get? How did I get him?
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tim: Tell me about. How did it go.
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Joey Myers: Oh, went great. Yeah. So with him, you know, we try to keep it a little bit more. Uh, you know, not mentioning names, but you know we kind of mention names a little bit, and.
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Joey Myers: Just more state of the game, like I love.
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tim: I follow Jeff, you know, on a lot of different social medias. You know he's in that big ward with uh.
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Joey Myers: Tm.
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tim: Yeah. Tm, you know, I'll stay out of that. We're gonna stay out of that kinda.
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Joey Myers: Mhm. Yeah, and I and I have, too. But he's um.
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Joey Myers: So he's a lot of the, and I've been watching him closely and. To his posts and things, and I'll read through it, and I'll go through some of the comments on his and.
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Joey Myers: And he aligns a lot closer to my. To my philosophy and coaching and things like that. And of course there are some things you know. I.
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tim: He does.
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Joey Myers: I don't think swing down is the end all be all when it comes to hitting. I do like swing up, but only on certain pitches that are more. They're farther away from the hitter, you know, down in the zone or away in the zone. Swing up is okay. But swing up doesn't work up in the Zone and in. I've tried it. I've tried it. My people can argue with me about that, but I've tried it with my hitters, and we get too many.
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Joey Myers: Swing and misses, and too many pop ups, and we pitch. Our our pitchers on my son's team, and my son.
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Joey Myers: We pitch 85% of the swings in our league. And you're talking 9 teams in our majors, our 12 U. 11 and 12 s. 9 teams, 11 each team. So you're talking, you know, over a hundred players, 85% swung. They're swinging up.
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Joey Myers: Swinging up, swinging up, swinging up. So all we do is we take like a metaphorical tire swing. And we just hang it right about the armpit level.
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tim: Out there.
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Joey Myers: You know, in our mind when we're pitching, and we just throw it through this. We just throw it through the tire, throw it through the tire, and every single time Swing and Miss Swing and Miss Swing and Miss, you know. So I love to swing down on up pitches and in pitches. I love that. So it's like I was talking with Zen Penny. So I'm gonna he's a hitting coach. And he, I think tomorrow we're going to do a podcast that's going to be a good one. We're going to talk, hitting mechanics and all this kind of stuff very forward, thinking he was a.
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tim: Yeah.
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Joey Myers: He was a Tm. Guy. He was a Tm. Guy at 1 point, and then he made a comment the other day. He goes. Yeah, I was working with the hitter in the cage and.
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Joey Myers: He goes. The one thing I actually had to go back to the Tm. Stuff that I had learned, and that was something in particular. I used to help this hitter, and he said, I went through. What do you call it? He called it Hlp, because it's high level, high level pattern, right? He called it Hlp.
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Joey Myers: What do you call it with when our military comes back? Um! Um post dramatic stress disorder. Hlp, Ptsd, because I had a little Ptsd from Hlp, you know, and I thought that was pretty funny. And so anyway, I'm gonna have him on. But um.
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tim: Post-traumatic stress. Bye.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, I like, I like Jeff's outlook on the game and.
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tim: Absolutely.
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Joey Myers: You know he doesn't like the flashiness of it, and and all that kind of stuff. And I, you know I agree with him there, I understand. You know you have different countries. It's okay to do there. But. I don't know. I think the game kind of lost its policing like back in the day. You guys like Nolan Ryan or Bob Gibson or any of these guys would just.
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Joey Myers: Throw some chin music, and it just doesn't happen anymore. And. I asked Jeff. I go. How many 300 hitters did we have last year? He's like 7.
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Joey Myers: I go? How many do we have in the nineties? And he's like 45. Like, I know, batting average isn't a big deal anymore to these.
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tim: It is too. Man.
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Joey Myers: Deeper metrics, but it is.
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tim: That's 1 of the things that's 1 of the things that you'll see with V. Flex man is that if everybody. Is trained the same. You'll see that entire team's batting average go up.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: I mean 40 to 50 points, maybe 60 to 70, depending on what level you're looking at high school level, or whatever. But you're you're using a a feed forward system and not a feedback system.
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tim: And that's why I'm curious about Jeff and guys like him that. Work, talk a lot about mechanics.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, because the mechanics are. Things that are coming from here, going to the brain.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Versus going here. When you go through a feed forward system.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Very different than a feedback system.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: The feedback system is delayed and going to always be delayed.
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Joey Myers: Right.
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tim: But the feed, the feed forward system. Is very, very different, very streamlined.
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tim: So that the brain can adapt faster. It'll use the feedback system for its reward.
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Joey Myers: Mhm, yep.
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tim: But it won't. It doesn't use it in real time. To hit a baseball or softball.
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Joey Myers: Well where I could see where I see V. Flex. Fitting in is it's the 1st should be the 1st step. The 1st phase.
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Joey Myers: And then we can start to get into the mechanics and making those more effective. And now we go from a Datsun type car to a Tesla where it can go 0 to. 60 in. Like 2 seconds, or whatever it is, because it's more efficient at using energy. You know.
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tim: Yes, and you have to look at. Hello!
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tim: Where does the swing come from? You know. Uh, and that's where you know, when we lay a foundational.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Look at it. It's like. That swing is generated from.
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tim: Information that the brain interpreted.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know the swing is not telling the brain what to see. The swing is an extrapolation of what the brain saw.
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tim: You know, in the interference patterns of what it saw in space and time.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, and us trying to work backwards through this system to tell the brain. If you see this pitch.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Do it this way.
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Joey Myers: Uh-huh.
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tim: And but the brain's not going to do that. It's going to take all of your. Faults and failures, and your strengths and your weaknesses, and it's going to generate the swing for you.
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tim: From what it sees in a feed forward system.
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Joey Myers: When and I see a lot of the. Challenges are with decision making.
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Joey Myers: And in the short amount of time, so. On Noah's team. My Noah!
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Joey Myers: I have a guy big guy who's he's gonna be a good hitter, and I think V. Flex would be a real big help for him. And he's got happy feet. He just.
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Joey Myers: It's like it's almost like he's trying to swing from. A jumping position. His feet are just moving, moving. He's not. He can't root.
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Joey Myers: Because he's having a hard time. He's second guessing. Maybe it's all the stuff you're talking about. He just has this loop going around in his, conscious that just keeps going around and around and never gets cleared, and he never is. He hasn't been taught like what is an actual strike, like what makes a strike.
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tim: Yeah. Hot like.
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Joey Myers: And he's very his swings were working on it more from, you know my my knowledge and expertise trying to break through that. But it takes a little bit longer. And trying to get him to just be aggressive. Hey? You see.
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Joey Myers: Go for it. Hit it hard. Don't don't be afraid to swing and, miss, you know, type of thing. So we're using some different different things when it comes, like some of the things you were mentioned earlier, where, you know we use that where really don't need to. You know, we got to do is throw a V flex in front of them for a week or 2 weeks, and probably would fix itself. Like he wouldn't be doing that anymore. It would clean up a lot of that passive passivity.
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Joey Myers: And indecisiveness. I think it really all boils down to decision.
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tim: Mhm. It's his. His brain's going to teach itself. That's the thing about.
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Joey Myers: Hmm.
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tim: The psychological side versus the neurological side, the brain. Taught itself how to see.
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Joey Myers: Hmm.
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tim: You know, it taught itself how to taste. It taught itself how to smell. It taught itself how to recognize stimuli of all kinds from touch and feel.
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tim: And. I mean, it didn't need mama and daddy to learn how to walk.
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tim: It taught itself how it taught itself how to walk.
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Joey Myers: Right. Right.
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tim: You know, it took in information. It sorted that information while it was asleep, and tomorrow it woke up and it took 3 steps instead of 2. But it had to sleep, and it had to sort through that data.
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tim: And it had to wake up the next day, and it took 7 steps, and then it took 12 steps. You don't start out running, but it's because the brain is.
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Joey Myers: Hmm.
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tim: Teaching itself, and if you give it the right information, it can teach itself. The strike zone.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: But now you and I can't teach it to strike zone.
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Joey Myers: Mhm yeah.
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tim: They don't trust us. It's it's much more intelligent than we are. It's the pinnacle of God's glory to be honest with you.
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Joey Myers: 100%.
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tim: And you. You can't touch it. I can't touch it. We have to. We had to provide it the best information for the task that we wanted to perform. And then we have to step back and let the brain.
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tim: Show us if we were good at it or not.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: And guys don't want to do that.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: They want to say, well, you did this wrong. Your foot was in the wrong place, and your hands did this, and you swung at this pitch, and you didn't do this, and you didn't do that. And it's like.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: But this. Just hold on a minute. You know you were the teacher.
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tim: And if they're swinging at bad pitches, don't blame them.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: Man, that's your fault.
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Joey Myers: Right, right.
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tim: Because there's a method. That if you want to learn the method, there's a method of feed forward for that particular brain that if you put that information in there.
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tim: The brain will give you a different printout. It'll fix a lot of its own flaws.
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tim: Because it's searching for the path of least resistance. That's 1 of its laws of physics. It has to to be efficient. It has to find all of the paths of least resistance. You know, and.
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tim: We have to help it along the way. With the the training that we do.
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tim: And understanding it cognitively. The hitters. They don't have to understand it, either. You're talking about the coaches don't have to understand it.
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tim: The hitter will have no idea. What's happened to them.
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tim: They they won't. They won't know.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Because they won't be able to transfer it, either. They won't be able to go like Tony when and say, Oh, if you'll do this this this and this. You know you'll be as great as me.
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tim: It's untransferable.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: Each brain is teaching itself.
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Joey Myers: I love it.
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tim: That's why that's why you can't give it over to somebody else.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: It's protected in and of itself.
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Joey Myers: Right.
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tim: It's its own. It's its own universe.
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Joey Myers: Yeah. Well, I love it. Coach Tim. Well, hey, appreciate your time, brother. I'll get all this stuff over to you and get it in little chunks that you can. Post on, so I'll throw all that to you first, st and if you wanted to view it.
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tim: And I'm not good at this. I'll just be honest with you, but it's it's it's always fun to talk to somebody.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: You know I don't get. I don't get to talk to many people.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'll put it in a format that is easy to share, and that kind of thing. And if you know, I can put some. Copy and things like that for you, so that you can share with it. Make it easy, just copy and paste. You know that kind of thing, but I'll put it in a good format for you, so it's not too painful.
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tim: There you go. Okay. Yeah, no, I'm good with that man, you know. I just. I really appreciate you inviting me on.
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Joey Myers: Sure.
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tim: And let me uh. Experience it a little bit, you know, because, like, I say, I'm trying to not.
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tim: Experience. I've been around long enough to know that. This is not easy.
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tim: The language is very difficult.
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Joey Myers: Yeah, sometimes you need other others. Other coaches. To translate just a little bit, and and maybe the way that I explain it, somebody else goes. Oh, I got it, you know.
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tim: You'll I love those kind of guys. Man, I'm trying to find guys like you. I've got a I've got a handful.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: You know, across the country in in 10 years I probably got 5 guys. That can take what I say.
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tim: And tell other people. Simply, this is what that means.
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Joey Myers: Mhm.
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tim: You know, and it's not because I'm smart. It's just because the brain is so complicated.
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Joey Myers: Mhm yeah.
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tim: You know. But uh.
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Joey Myers: We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Coach Tim.
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tim: Well, hey, I appreciate, and thanks for helping to sell some of those V flexes man, especially those newer models. That means.
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Joey Myers: Let's get more. Let's get more.
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tim: Oh, we're getting ready to.
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Joey Myers: Yeah.
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tim: Ain't no failure here. We're gonna get it done.
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Joey Myers: Just be ready. Just be ready.
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tim: That's right.
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Joey Myers: All right, Coach Tim, have a good rest of your week, brother. God bless you!